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Thread: Job discrimination in Thailand?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kuanteen
    Discrimination is not always bad. Otherwise you'd be forcing people to marry just anyone who asks first just to give "equal opportunity".....

    ....before the flames, I have to say, I'm not racist.

    Probably taking things a bit far, that!

    Discrimination may not always be a bad thing, but why do it when it works to the country's disadvantage

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    I totally agree with Khun White Nancy. I don't see any benefits of discrimination.

    If the Thai government is really, really interested in moving the country to the 21 century, it has to truly eliminate discrimination and favoritism in the work place. And not just a lip service, it has to be enforced religiously, as well.

    A true democracy has to start from protecting the individual rights and equal pay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ooddy
    But yet most Thais will tolerate this issue, or accept it as a matter of fact. Just like corruption as part of doing business.

    Discrimination and corruption are good for business!!!

    I don't quite get it. Even the US companies located in Thailand supposedly they have a very stingent laws against discrimination in the US. But when they operate here in Thailand, they tend to have a field day in ignoring their standard of business practices of equal rights and eqaul opportuniities, no discrimination.

    As for the Eurppeon companies, I don't believe they are interested in equal rights and equal opportunities...at least I don't notice it.

    Mr. Prime Minister hasn't yet take on this issue. He has other stuff to worry about, such as, trying to protect Thailand image and reputation in reference to the new airport scandal.
    Most multi-national companies are the same; they'll only comply with what legislation dictates, whether it be discrimination or whatever. From my own experience, I know of one such company that operates to vastly different health and safety practices from factory to factory depending on the country - it saves them money and that's what they adhere to financial values - not moral values. The bottom line is they will do whatever the host nation allows them to get away with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ooddy
    I guess Thailand is not going to become a world class contry after all. If they still maintain job discrimination and corruption as a fact of life here.
    I am from Italy, a member of G8, EU, blahblahblah... a place anybody would call "World Class," none the less my country experiences problems of corruption and discrimination at ALL levels that are somehow similar to the ones you describe when you talk about Thailand.

    Not to mention Japan, where I reside at the moment, where female employees are still expected to serve tea to their male counterparts, and get paid less to perform exactly the same work as a man. Often better!).

    These problems are not localized, and are tackled little by little, step by step b...y us, the people. Thus, I really appreciate that you talk about these issues, but I invite you to keep a positive attitude. The world, including Thailand, of course, CAN be improved.

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    the problem with Thai folks is they are too complacent, uncommitatted, and not passanate enough to fight the issue. They have to rise up and get out of laissez-faire attitude and start taking actions, not just complaining or ignoring the issue.

    Often time, they would sort of trying to avoiding the issue and feel that nothing they can do anything about it. And go to the temple and meditate!

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    how about the thai dump this stupid system of blocking most professional jobs at all levels to foriegners. If you have the skills and can do the job then you should be taken on regardless if your thai or not. allow farangs to work in all sectors especially when opening there own business that employes thais anyway ie a shop or office etc.

    also for the benifit of the thais the min monthly wage must be raised to at least 15000 baht per month after tax in all industries even if that reduces the cheap labor aspect. looking at lifestyle and higher quality manufacturing whould bring in the cash to the economy anyway.

    combine the NON B visa and work permits and reduce the price of this

    push english as hard as possiable to catch up with the standards in singapore and the west. this alone will grow the economy.

    allow

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    Discrimination is rampant, even in the most educated person, the most refined gentleman, but what I think lies in everyone of us is to feel that we are more superior than others and the fight for perfection continues.

    Discrimination, in my view has its benefits, but remember it is only a self-benefit, beneficial to yourself and the other party, the one who got him/herself a job for example. I would think it as rather selfish, an act that goes against human rights, something that is not tolerable yet many people practise, just because it suits them or without it, they think they would not prosper or succeed.

    However, I think that discrimination has its side effects, ah, to yourself of course. A generalization is made that the pretty ones cannot work because they are complacent, and the not-so-good looking ones strive for success. This is because the beauty thinks everyone can hire her and looking for her rice bowl isn't that much of a problem. As such, focusing on the job might be a difficult task, as she readily grabs other better offers than the current one. Thus, you either keep up or loose your worker. However, the one with physical or mental disabilities would continue to work hard, because they know that their job is a hard-earned one. They do not want to disappoint their boss/ manager, and in fact, they put their heart so deep into their job that they almost reach their peak of perfection. Ah well, the generalization is done, it goes against speed and efficency of course...nothings fair in this world.
    onslaught

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    Quote Originally Posted by Okya Senaphimuk
    The world, including Thailand, of course, CAN be improved.
    Michael jackson's 'heal the world' can be very inspiring and encouraging at times
    onslaught

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    it's true that the world is not fair. But we still need to work on it to push into a more reasonableness...closer to fairness as much as we can. We can't just ignore and brush it aside. If it's not in our backyard, we tend to not get involved.

    The issue is really permeated throughout the system in Thailand...because no one is doing anything about it. If you glance through the classified ad in the newspaper. You see a lot of discrimination. Only a person younger than 35 years of age needs to apply; one has to be good looking; one has to meet certain physical requirements; etc.

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    ah, it certainly does seem to be.

    your location indicates your from the united states. Don't you think that the US is pushing for fairness and is getting under too much fire? For example interfering in tyrants in the middle east?
    onslaught

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    Quote Originally Posted by ooddy View Post
    I guess Thailand is not going to become a world class contry after all. If they still maintain job discrimination and corruption as a fact of life here.

    I haven't noticed anybody upset and doing something about it. It must be because it's difficult to find a good job for the Thais. So they keep their months shut...But shame on the Thai government; they suppose to protect the public; but nothing happens so far...
    World class country? An example....?

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