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The Bangkok Post reported yesterday (Monday 2 April) that the Deputy Min of Transport was reviewing the decision for the Pink line to be a mono-rail line. I guess on the rare occasion the dysfunctional nature of mass transit policy decision making may give one hope....
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They just want to make a quick fix to secure the voters though - Even though Skytrain (Pink lien will be preferred by those voters but being slow to implement that the existign plan for Pink Monorail ...
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MRTA Adding 6 More stations for Pink Monorail - Kae Rai to Minburi wiht the budget increased to 50 billion Baht
1. Central Chaeng Watthana
2. Impact Arena
3. MICT - Ministry of Information and Communication Technology
4. Amarin Niwet Village
5. Nuan Chan
6. Fashion Island
24 Old stations:
1. Nonthaburi Government Complex
2. Khae Rai
3. Sanam Bin Nam
4. Samaggi
5. Irrigation Dept
6. Pakkret
7. Pakkret Bypass
[New station - Central Chaeng Watthana]
8. Mueang Thong Thani
[New station - Impact Arena]
9. Sri Rat
10. Mongkut Watthanana
11. BKK Government Complex
[New station - MICT]
12. Laksi
13. Phra Nakhon Rajabhat University
14. Lak Si Circle
[New Station - Amarin Niwet Village]
15. Lad Pla Khao
16. Keha Ramindra [NHA Apartment at Ram Indra km. 4]
[New station - Nuan Chan]
17. Watcharaphon
18. Nawamin
19. Khanna Yao
[New station - Fashion Island]
20. Siam Park
21. Bang Chan
22. Setthabut Bumphen
23. Sihabooranukit
24. Minburi
http://www.prachachat.net/news_detai...d=07&subcatid=
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Discussion on Pink Monorail (Minburi - kae Rai)
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This was held in Miniburi right? I wonder if the panel had many questions from the public about what exactly is a monorail and the rationale for why monorail was chosen for this line?Originally Posted by Wisarut
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Because the vast majority of passengers who take mass transportation along Chaeng Watthana - Ram Indra road (AKA Highway 304) generally make a short haul trip - did not go all the way from Pakkret to Minburi so it is not justified for Heavy rail.
Furthermore, they just convincing the people that they can get Monorail before getting the heavy rail
Last edited by Wisarut; 12-06-12 at 10:38 AM. Reason: Addendum
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MOT and MRTA stated earlier in the week that bidding for the Pink line should be ready early next year. A comparative study found that heavy rail would cost 60 billion baht and monorail 50 billion baht. Still undecided on the extra 6 stations.
This was then reported as a disjointed news brief in the Post as follows:
Extra rail line to Bangkapi mooted, BKK Post, 29/06/12
THE MRTA will stage an international bidding contest early next year to select a contractor to build another electric railway from the Thailand cultural Center to Bangkapi district in Bangkok.
The link will form the middle part of three sections of the 160 billion baht Ornage Line that will stretch 37.5km from Taling Chan to Minburi. MRTA Deputy Governor Peerayuth Singpatanakul said.
Another electric railway project that will follow soon is the 36km Pink Line from Khae Rai to Minburi. The 50 billion baht Pink LIne will be a light rail project which will serve as a feeder railway for other links.
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30 Stations for Pink Monorail with park and ride facility at Sanambin Nam and Minburi - still 34.5 km with the details
1) Nonthaburi Government Complex - in front of onthaburi Government Complex - on Ratthanathibet road
2) Kae Rai - near Thoracic Medical Institute (the good old chest Hospital) between Tiwanont 13 and Tiwanont 15 for better accommodation of passengers to Hospital, market and communities around
3) Sanam Bin Nam - moved from Quartermaster Dept to be in between Sanam Bin Nam road and Tiwanont 35 for better accommodation - with park and ride on 48 rai of land for 225 cars
4) Samakkhi -move to be in between Tiwanant 52 and Samakkhi road for better connection with community
5) Royal Irrigation Dept - moved to be near Cholaprathan Witthayakhom school between Tiwanont 4 and Tiwanont 6 for better accommodation with those from Royal Irrigation Dept hospital and Cholaprathan Witthayakhom school
6) Pakkret - moved to bein betwen Pakkret intersection and Big C Extra Chaeng Watthana for better accommodation with passengers from Pakkret
7) Pakkret City Bypass - moved to be the vacant plot near Pakkret Bypass and Chaeng Watthana for the future park and ride.
8) Chaeng Watthana Pakkret 28 - new station near Ministry of Justice Building (Software park) and Central Chaeng Watthana for those who live in BMA Welfare Village and Chaeng Watthana Pakkret 28
9) Mueang Thong Thani (STOU) near the road to Muangthong Thani and the flyover across Mueangthong Thani village
10) Sri Rat - near Sri Rat expressway
11) Mueang Thong 1 between Mongkut Watthana Hospital and Big C Chaeng Watthana
12) Government Complex 1 near Consul Dept between Chaeng Watthana 9 and Chaeng Watthana 7
13) Government Complex 2 - New station near MICT between Chaeng Watthana 7 and Chaeng Watthana 5 for those who are heading to Government Complex
14) Laksi - near Laksi Intersection
15) Rajabhat Phra Nakhon - in front of Rajabhat University of t Phra Nakhon
16) Constitution Protection Monument - near Laksi Circle to connect with Green line (Mochit - Saphan Mai)
17) Ram Indra 3 - New station near Central Ramindra between Rama Indra 3 and Ram Indra 5 - should be Amarin Niwet instead
18) Lad Pla Khao near Lad Pla khao road - a road that connect Ram Indra with Lad Phrao road and Phaholyothin road - massive community here.
19) Ram Indra 31 - new station near Foodland - between Ram Indra 29 and Ram Indra 31 (Ram Indra km 3)
20) Maiyarap - between Ram Indra 12 and Ram Indra 14
21) Watcharaphon - near Soi Watcharaphon
22) Ram Indra km 6 - New station between Ram Indra 40 and Ram Indra 42
23) Ram Indra km 8 at Nawamin intersection between Ram Indra 46 and ram Indra 48
24) Ram Indra 91 new station for those who work and live near Synphaet Hospital - should be Synphaet Hospital
25) Khanna Yao station - in front of Fashion Island
26) Noppharat Ratchathanee - in front of Noppharat Ratchathanee General Hospital near Siam Park
27) Bang Chan - Bang Chan canal near Ram Indra 109
28) Setthabut Bumphen - in front of Setthabut Bumphen school
29) Talad Minburi near Minburi Market
30) Minburi near Rom Klao intersection - with Park and ride on 50 Rai ofl and and 9 -floor park and ride buiding for 1500 cars
Need to exappropriate 147 Rail of land at 3.896 billion Baht and 259 houses at 0.562 billion Baht with the total compensation of 4.458 billion Baht - extra rolling stocks for 20 Baht flat rate case.
Investment gone up from 37.11 Billion Baht in 2009 to 50.77 Billion Baht in 2012 due to 6 news stations and extra rolling stocks and extra budget for emergency.
Land Exappropriation 3.9 billion Baht
Civil Engineer 19.49 billion Baht
Electric and Mechanic 11.089 Billion Baht
Rolling stocks 12.126 billion Baht
Platform Screen doors 0.45 billion Baht
Consultant 1.748 billion Baht
Emergency budget of 2.418 billion Baht
http://www.prachachat.net/news_detai...&subcatid=0700
Last edited by Wisarut; 03-07-12 at 04:50 PM. Reason: Addendum
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Latest bro-sure of Pink Monorail by MRTA can be seen here - with the list of 30 stations which has been revised:
30 Stations for Pink Monorail with park and ride facility at Sanambin Nam and Minburi - still 34.5 km with the details
1) Nonthaburi Government Complex - in front of onthaburi Government Complex - on Ratthanathibet road
2) Kae Rai - near Thoracic Medical Institute (the good old chest Hospital) between Tiwanont 13 and Tiwanont 15 for better accommodation of passengers to Hospital, market and communities around
3) Sanam Bin Nam - moved from Quartermaster Dept to be in between Sanam Bin Nam road and Tiwanont 35 for better accommodation - with park and ride on 48 rai of land for 225 cars
4) Samakkhi -move to be in between Tiwanant 52 and Samakkhi road for better connection with community
5) Royal Irrigation Dept - moved to be near Cholaprathan Witthayakhom school between Tiwanont 4 and Tiwanont 6 for better accommodation with those from Royal Irrigation Dept hospital and Cholaprathan Witthayakhom school
6) Pakkret - moved to bein betwen Pakkret intersection and Big C Extra Chaeng Watthana for better accommodation with passengers from Pakkret
7) Pakkret City Bypass - moved to be the vacant plot near Pakkret Bypass and Chaeng Watthana for the future park and ride.
8) Chaeng Watthana Pakkret 28 - new station near Ministry of Justice Building (Software park) and Central Chaeng Watthana for those who live in BMA Welfare Village and Chaeng Watthana Pakkret 28
9) Mueang Thong Thani (STOU) near the road to Muangthong Thani and the flyover across Mueangthong Thani village
10) Sri Rat - near Sri Rat expressway
11) Mueang Thong 1 between Mongkut Watthana Hospital and Big C Chaeng Watthana
12) Government Complex near Consul Dept between Chaeng Watthana 9 and Chaeng Watthana 7
13) TOT - New station near MICT between Chaeng Watthana 7 and Chaeng Watthana 5 for those who are heading to MICT and TOT
14) Laksi - near Laksi Intersection and IT Square
15) Rajabhat Phra Nakhon - in front of Rajabhat University of t Phra Nakhon
16) Lak Si Circle- ON Laksi Circle to connect with Green line (Mochit - Saphan Mai)
17) Ram Indra 3 - New station near Central Ramindra between Rama Indra 3 and Ram Indra 5 - should be Amarin Niwet instead
18) Lad Pla Khao near Lad Pla khao road - a road that connect Ram Indra with Lad Phrao road and Phaholyothin road - massive community here.
19) Ram Indra 31 - new station near Foodland - between Ram Indra 29 and Ram Indra 31 (Ram Indra km 3)
20) Maiyarap - between Ram Indra 12 and Ram Indra 14
21) Watcharaphon - near Soi Watcharaphon
22) Ram Indra 40 - New station between Ram Indra 40 and Ram Indra 42
23) Khoo Bon at Nawamin intersection between Ram Indra 46, Ram Indra 48 and Khoo Bon road
24) Ram Indra 83 new station for those who work and live near Synphaet Hospital - should be Synphaet Hospital
25) Kanchanaphisek Ring station - in front of Fashion Island
26) Noppharat Ratchathanee - in front of Noppharat Ratchathanee General Hospital near Siam Park
27) Bang Chan - Bang Chan canal near Ram Indra 109
28) Setthabut Bumphen - in front of Setthabut Bumphen school
29) Talad Minburi near Minburi Market
30) Minburi near Rom Klao intersection - with Park and ride on 50 Rai ofl and and 9 -floor park and ride buiding for 1500 cars
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What happened during Public Hearing at Jupiter room, the 3rd floor of Miracle Grand Hotel, Laksi, BKK can be seen here:
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...4185089&type=1
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One of the main original reasons given for going ahead with a silly mono-rail for this route was said to be that it would be cheaper than heavy rail but of course we now see that that rationale has little substance. In the end I suspect it will end up costing more than heavy rail after 5-10 years of operations as I am assuming lots of technical problems, maintenance issues, regular breakdowns and loss of revenue.
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Clearly they just want to demonstrate that PT men is going to do something for Bangkokians in the suburbs from Nonthaburi to Minburi with the obvious results as quick as possible (with a hope to be done in 2018) ... even though it means that they will opt to Monorail instead of heavy rail like BTS Skytrain.
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Ok this is just a brief report but I love the last sentences which gives the distinct impression that the same rolling stock will used on both the Pink Line and the Yellow Line. Of course that is impossible, it is just badly worded but to most readers this would be the impression.
MRT PINK LINE
Price of Pink Line rises to Bt54 billion, The Nation September 26, 2012
The Mass Rapid Transit Authority of Thailand has raised the investment estimate for the Pink Line (Khae Rai to Min Buri) from Bt38 billion to Bt54 billion because of an increase in the number of planned stations from 24 to 30 and higher land prices, MRTA governor Yongsit Rojanasrikul said. He said the MRTA board would propose the project for Cabinet approval next month.
Once approved, the authority will start construction next year and target completion for 2017. The fare will be a flat Bt20 for the whole Pink Line, he said. The route from Khae Rai in Nonthaburi province to Min Buri district in Bangkok is 34.5 kilometres long.
Yongsit said the MRTA was considering buying about 300 train carriages for Bt60 million each or Bt18 billion in total. These would be used for the Pink Line and the Yellow Line, which will run from Lat Phrao to Samrong.
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This implied that Yellow line will have to be Monorail though as the way to get a quick voters by showing that they have done their job early but they also alienate voters at the same time because those who live along Lad Phrao Road since they BADLY want Heavy Rail subway
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News about Pink Monorail by Khun Sorayuth of Channel 3
More details on 30 stations and the route of Pink Monorail of 34.5 km
30 Stations for Pink Monorail with park and ride facility at Sanambin Nam and Minburi - still 34.5 km with the details
1) Nonthaburi Government Complex - in front of Nonthaburi Government Complex - on Ratthanathibet road - and a via duct connecting with Nonthaburi Government Complex station of Purple line
2) Kae Rai - near Thoracic Medical Institute (the good old chest Hospital) between Tiwanont 13 and Tiwanont 15 for better accommodation of passengers to Hospital, market and communities around
3) Sanam Bin Nam - moved from Quartermaster Dept to be in between Sanam Bin Nam road [Sanam Bin Nam Intersection] and Soi Tiwanont 35 for better accommodation - with park and ride on 48 rai of land for 225 cars
4) Samakkhi -move to be in between Tiwanant 52 (near Klong Bang Talad canal) and Samakkhi road for better connection with community
5) Royal Irrigation Dept - moved to be near Cholaprathan Witthayakhom school between Tiwanont 4 and Tiwanont 6 for better accommodation with those from Royal Irrigation Dept hospital and Cholaprathan Witthayakhom school since this place is closer to Cholaprathan Witthayakhom school though
6) Pakkret - moved to bein betwen Pakkret intersection and Big C Extra Chaeng Watthana for better accommodation with passengers from Pakkret
7) Pakkret City Bypass - moved to be the vacant plot near Pakkret Bypass and Soi Chaeng Watthana - Pakkret 8 for the future park and ride.
8) Chaeng Watthana Pakkret 28 - new station near Ministry of Justice Building (Software park) and Central Chaeng Watthana for those who live in BMA Welfare Village and Chaeng Watthana Pakkret 28
9) Mueang Thong Thani (STOU) near the road to Muangthong Thani and the flyover across Mueangthong Thani village
10) Sri Rat - near Sri Rat expressway and the gateway to Impact to allow the feeder bus to go
11) Mueang Thong 1 between Mongkut Watthana Hospital and Big C Chaeng Watthana
12) Government Complex - near Consul Dept between Chaeng Watthana 9 and Chaeng Watthana 7
13) TOT - New station near MICT between Chaeng Watthana 7 and Chaeng Watthana 5 for those who are heading to MICT and TOT
14) Laksi - near Laksi Intersection and IT Square
15) Rajabhat Phra Nakhon - in front of Rajabhat University of Phra Nakhon, Max Value store, and Lak Si Square
16) Lak Si Circle - ON Ram Indra road to connect with Green line (Mochit - Saphan Mai) - not very far from Bangkhen Police station
17) Ram Indra 3 - New station near Central Ramindra between Rama Indra Soi 3 and Ram Indra Soi 5, the gate to Amarin Niwet and Lumphini Place Condominium
18) Lad Pla Khao near Lad Pla khao road - a road that connect Ram Indra with Lad Phrao road and Phaholyothin road - massive community here. and Lumphin Boxi Stadium is going to move very closed to that station even though it is in between Armed Forces Security Center and RTA Golf Club
19) Ram Indra 31 - new station near Foodland - between Ram Indra Soi 29 and Ram Indra Soi 31 (Ram Indra km 3)
20) Maiyarap - between Ram Indra Soi 12 and Ram Indra Soi 14
21) Watcharaphon - near Soi Watcharaphon near Ram Indra Soi 59 and ram Indra Soi 61 - will be a fituyre inerchange with the grey line along Pradit Manootham road
22) Ram Indra 40 - New station between Ram Indra Soi 40 and Ram Indra Soi 42
23) Khoo Bon at Nawamin intersection between Ram Indra Soi 46, Ram Indra Soi 48 and Khoo Bon road - AKA km. 8 area
24) Ram Indra 83 new station for those who work and live near Synphaet Hospital - should be Synphaet Hospital
25) Kanchanaphisek Ring station - in front of Fashion Island
26) Noppharat Ratchathanee - in front of Noppharat Ratchathanee General Hospital near the road to Siam Park
27) Bang Chan - Bang Chan canal near Ram Indra Soi 109 [Phraya Suren road] and Ram Indra Soi 115
28) Setthabut Bumphen - in front of Setthabut Bumphen school
29) Talad Minburi near Minburi Market on Sihaburanukit road
30) Minburi near Rom Klao intersection on Ram Khamhaeng Soi 192 - with 9 -floor park and ride buiding for 2000 cars on 280 rai of land for Depot and interchange with Orange line.
5 Major place for land exappropriation
1. Pakkret intersection just before turning right to Chaeng Watthana - the old soccer field for Pakkret station need 7155 Sq. meter of land (4 Rai - 1 Ngan - 3.55 Sq. Wah)
2. Area besides the flyover near the gate to Mueang Thong Thani to avoid demolition of mueang Thong Thani flyover which belongs to Highways Dept - 7800 Sq. meter of land (4 Rai - 3 Ngan - 50 Sq. Wah)
3. Vibhavadee Rangsit Highway at Laksi Intersection to allow the monorail to go below Donmueang Tollway - 7300 Sq. meter of land (4 Rai - 2 Ngan - 25 Sq. Wah)
4. Laksi Circle from rajabhat Phranakhon to Por Kung Phao - 4 meter wide land strips with total area of 7500 Sq. meter of land (4 Rai - 2 Ngan - 75 Sq. Wah)
5. Minburi - 280 Rai of land for park and ride and depot.
There rest will be minor land exappropriation for stairways with escalators
Now budget has to be boosted up from 38 billion Baht to 54 billion Baht - 6 Nrew stations, rising cost of construction materials along with 300 Baht daily wage and the new land prices effective on 1 July 2012
- doubling the land exappropiraiton budget from 2 billion Baht to 4 billion Baht.
This project invested by MRTA while there will be 10 year contract for those who have hired by MRTA and hire contractors ot handle the job .. and the right price for land exapropriation.
Last edited by Wisarut; 24-10-12 at 12:51 PM. Reason: Addendum
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If PT wants to modify the route and extend it further east to Nong Chok and beyond - I guess so that the party faithful can watch futsal matches at the new, as yet unfinished stadium - then it again makes more sense for it to be a heavy rail line.
Pheu Thai seeks revision of MRT Pink Line, Bkk Post, 4/10/2012
The ruling Pheu Thai Party is calling for a revision of the plans for Bangkok's MRT Pink Line, claiming that most passengers will not benefit from the existing proposed route. Bangkok Pheu Thai MPs Vicharn Meenchainant, Jirayu Huangsap and Polapoom Wipatpoom-iprathet have called for the Office of Transport and Traffic Policy and Planning (OTP) and the Transport Ministry to reconsider an existing plan to construct a train line from Chaeng Watthana Road to Min Buri.
Mr Vicharn said that instead of following the current plan to build the Pink Line through Min Buri Market, a sparsely populated area, the line should instead go along Suwinthawong Road in order to accommodate people who live in Nong Chok and Khlong Sam Wa districts, as well as areas bordering Chachoengsao province. The Pheu Thai MPs will submit a public survey report on the matter to the prime minister, the OTP and the Transport Ministry for consideration.
Mr Jirayu claimed that there has been some political interference on the issue in order to drive up property prices along the proposed route. He added that the existing plan is based on an outdated study, conducted seven years ago.
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