Saraburi?? Why not just put in Chiang Mai for the paramount leader?
Chaing Mai is too far from the central region and I expect that there will be a land speculation as the way to fill up the political party coffers instead of relaying upon Ai maew's dole so they have come up with either Pakkret or Saraburi.
After PT men implying that they are going to move the New parliament to Pakkret, Angry mobs from Royal Irrigation Golf Club and students of Wat Cholaprathan Rangsarit school storming the National Assembly showign their strong disapproval to those PT men who plan to move the new parliament to Pakkret
Thepthai pointing out that the conflict between ex House speaker Chai vs. House speaker Somsak on the new site of the new parliament have a lot to do with the conflicts of interests
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^^Chiang Mai was a joke na. As much of a joke as Saraburi would be......that is of course unless the current govt wants to go the way of the Brazilians and Burmese junta and build a whole new capital....
New site might be needed for Parliament complex, The Nation January 13, 2012
A new location may have to be found for the new Parliament complex, which was going to be constructed at a site in Bangkok's Kiak Kai area, Deputy House Speaker Charoen Chankomol said yesterday. "The relocation proposal will be raised with House Speaker Somsak Kiartsuranont on Monday," he said in his capacity as committee chairman in charge of Parliament construction work.
Charoen said the new site would be chosen from plots available in Nonthaburi's Pak Kret district and in Saraburi. He explained that a new site had to be considered because the Kiak Kai location was plagued with problems, such as the risk of flooding, the landscape being compromised due to the planned construction of a new bridge over the Chao Phraya River and a delay on land appropriation.
If the present site is used, he said, the construction deadline would have to be extended from 2013 to 2017, while the complex would be completed in time if either of the two plots were to be used. However, he admitted that the Pak Kret plot, which is being used by the Royal Irrigation Department as a golf course, would put several caddies out of work.
As for the plot in Saraburi being about 100 kilometres outside Bangkok, he argued that the distance might not pose a problem because a high-speed train network is planned for the route. He said that he has invited representatives from the city administration and other relevant agencies in charge of the two pieces of land to attend the meeting on Monday and voice their views on the matter.
Too bad, PT men starting to brainwash both voters and the propaganda mouthpieces to to gain more and more supports to create the new capital (following the example of Burmese Junta and Brazilian Junta) as the way to destroy the Power base of Bangkokians at all cost since they have no hope to win the election despite the endless campaigns by PT supporters (especially from Ee Sudarat - the Godmother of Wang Thong Lang) and terrorism by UDD men.
They hope that they can hire Cambodian and Vietnamese mercenaries to protect their new capitals once Armed Forces turning against them since UDD men and UDD forces have become too weak to deal with Armed Forces after the flood of 2011.
AI Charoen insisting that the new parliament must be moved out of Kiakkai area and destroying 4 contractors who are going to work with the new parliament at Kiakkai since PT men sconsiders 4 contractors as the ones who stand on their way
AI Charoen insisting to move the new parliament to Saraburi at all cost
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House Speaker Somsak admitting that moving the new Parliament to Cavary Center in Saraburi as well as the Royal Irrigation Dept Golf Club in Pakkret will very hard if not impossible since those who work in both areas would go against such a plan
NEW PARLIAMENT: Somsak downplays relocation suggestion, BKK Post, 19/01/2012
House Speaker Somsak Kiatsuranon has downplayed a suggestion by the parliamentary committee monitoring the construction of the new parliament complex that it should be built in Saraburi instead of Bangkok's Kiakkai area. "The reasons given for the change, concerning the site's susceptibility to floods, and a delay in the process of handing over the site to parliament are insufficient," Mr Somsak said yesterday.
The committee led by Charoen Chankomol, a deputy House speaker, planned to propose to Mr Somsak that he consider choosing a plot of state land in Saraburi as the site of the new parliament over the land in the Kiakkai area. The panel cited security, flooding, and a delay in the land expropriation process in Kiakkai as key reasons to back their suggestion. Mr Somsak responded yesterday by saying it was not so easy to change the site to Saraburi. "To make such a change requires a very special reason," Mr Somsak said.
Delays in the expropriation process could be enough to prompt parliament to consider relocating the complex. "If we cannot complete construction in two years, then we should consider relocation," he said. Mr Somsak said parliament would then be asked to consider choosing a new site. However, Mr Somsak said he believed the land expropriation could be completed by the end of this year.
Democrat Party list MP Chamni Sakdiset said he was concerned about Mr Charoen's suggestion to relocate to Saraburi. He said it could confuse the public. Parliament should concentrate on building the complex on the Kiakkai site selected earlier, Mr Chamni said.
The very reason for relocating the new National Assembly is to bully Army men (Cavalry men) at Fort Adisor, Saraburi ...
Whjen PT men is raising the issue of moving the New parliament to Saraburi, The Senate saying that the process of construction of the New parliament just starting by clearing Yothin Boorana school and vicinity which will be done and the real construction of the new national assembly will be started in 2014 ... and the government has been paid 7 billion Baht for the new parliament in Kiakkai so the process cannot go back to square one as PT men has claimed.
Army textile factory workers in Kiakkai appealing Ai Charoen about the matter of relocation
MP Nikhom - Senator and Thai Engineering Asso. SAYING NO to the proposal to move the new parlaiment to Pakkret or Saraburi as requested by PT men vy pointing out that Army startign to transfer the land for the construction in May 2012 at by the end of 2012, there will be the bidding for the contractor to handle 900 dfay contruction - all to be done in June 2014 ... the delay is due to the fact that Yothin Burana has ask for 600 million Baht more for the construction of the New Yothin Boorana School in Wat Soy Thong after sending the bill of 1.6 billion Baht to the government ... along with the delay on the construction of the new apartments for those who have to move ....
Army going to transfer the land around Kiakkai to construction the new National Assembly by the end of 2012 - after the new housing for Army men are done at
Wat Salak in Nonthaburi, Fort Kamphaengphet Akkharayothin in Krathgumbaen district of Samut Sakhon, Sanam Pao, Thoed Damri road and the ex- Army prison ...
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Recurring nightmare: Floods cast a long shadow on choice of site for new parliament, BKK Post 02/02/2012
Winter has finally gone _ for a while, maybe. It is supposed to be arid in the country this time of year. People are worrying if the draught would be more drastic in times of climate change. Typically, January is the period when we have to start stocking up water in our dams for irrigation as the Thai economy depends greatly on agriculture.
However, heavy rains once in a while get the people worrying about the flooding, which could return in September this year. Worse still, water levels in the dams are unusually high, with some of them almost 90% full, which is three times more than regular stock in February. Why so? Government officials say that we still have a lot of water left in the dams from last year. And it is not easy to release it out soon enough before May when the rainy season officially sets in. It looks as if another devastating flood might come back to haunt us again. Be prepared!
PHOTOS COURTESY OF SA NGOB JOINT VENTURE TEAMí
Seemingly the government has yet to come up with any concrete solutions on how to prevent flooding. It is us who have to help ourselves. Many factories are thinking of relocating as it has been clearly shown the sites on which they sit are flood prone, and they can't just rely on some government officials who are controlling the dams. Even the government itself can't guarantee if Bangkok will survive and has asked to relocate the new parliament building project to somewhere else! Yes, it is another talk of the town.
The new parliament building has been designed by a team of Thai architects and engineers from companies forming a joint venture named Sa Ngob. The building is to be built on the bank of the Chao Phraya River along Samsen Road. Annual high tide in October might bring trouble to the building. However, the new parliament project has been in the making more than 20 years already, since I was still a student of architecture at Chulalongkorn University. The government has contracted the university to conduct a study on where is the most appropriate location for this project. A research by the university's Faculty of Architecture revealed that, for this highly significant building, a site in Bangkok metropolitan area by the river was the most suitable place because the river is the heart of the country. Thailand and its rich culture has flourished along the river's banks for hundreds of years, as evident in Ayutthaya where many historic sites and great temples were built along its banks and they survive to this day.
From the ancient temples of Ayutthaya to the Grand Palace, the Temple of Dawn, and Siriraj hospital in Bangkok, we can see that our ancestors clearly foresaw the "spirit of the river". That is why iconic buildings must be built along the river. I can't imagine the Grand Palace being built on Sukhumvit Road, or the Temple of Dawn being located in Silom. That is just not right. Neither does the new parliament building. If we look at a satellite image of Bangkok, we will be stunned to find that our ancestors who built Bangkok have marked a "Virtual Line" that links historical sites in Bangkok and the river _ forming an axis from and along the river bank, and the current site for the new parliament building is on this axis too. Sometimes, a building whispers to us about where it wants to stay, if we just listen carefully.
It is quite sad that today, with the flood danger looming, some Thais especially from the government's side could not find a better way of building such an iconic structure along the river which can protect itself from future flooding, whereas our ancestors did it, and successfully too, hundreds of years ago. If the government can do just anything, as it did to protect the Enco building (i.e. Froc headquarters) from flooding last October, why could they not do it for the new parliament building? And if the prime minister keeps saying to foreign investors that we will be safe from flooding and asks them to believe that she can really do it, why doesn't she show us by not moving the new parliament project to somewhere else far away from the river and Bangkok for fear of flooding?
An image of the new parliament from across the river.
It is also sad to hear that many city residents want to move this building far away from Bangkok for fear of bad traffic in town, whereas they enjoy going shopping in the malls that have created more traffic jams than would the new parliament building do. Some even question why this building should be much more important than other public buildings or why we have to spend our tax money to build such a high-grade office for (some) corrupt politicians. Is this how we value great architectures of the nation?
The parliament building is not your typical public building; it is the country's "centre of power" and "icon of democracy" _ things that we have fought very hard for during the last decade, isn't it? It will be a landmark which must be situated on the best location in the capital city. If we move this building, Bangkok will not be really considered the capital city of Thailand. Are we going to fight to save Bangkok or just leave the capital city and find a new one because we can't do anything about flooding? The case of the new parliament will demonstrate if state-of-the-art building technology of today can help us build better and stronger than our ancestors did back during the Ayutthaya period.
Love it or hate it, a hundred years from now this parliament building will stand as a landmark of Bangkok, just like the Grand Palace or the Temple of Dawn. Or that day in the future, there will be no parliament building anymore because Thailand may no longer be a democratic country?
A model of the new parliament.
New parliament still at Kiakkai and the building regulation still applied
New National Assembly Delayed due to the labor shortage that delay the demolition as well as the construction of the new Army Apartments as well as all other relating matters