Rail, Tram & Trolleybus

[GWR]

Singapore previously had a fairly big network of tramways and military railways. Map:-

http://members.lycos.co.uk/railsing/...ingmapmini.jpg

Website:-

http://members.lycos.co.uk/railsing/Singapore/

[von Hirschhorn]

Nice stuff GWR but are there any explanations for the first map?
The red lines are those former tramlines?
I know there were trams once – and trolley bus too - have some old postcards but not aware they were running as far as the railway ferry to Johor and later the causeway.

[GWR]

The red lines are roads as far as I know.

I'll take another look, but my reading is that there was a tramway to the ferry pier before the causeway was built. The eventual railway (after the building of the causeway) followed the same route as the tramway in the north of the island, but then hived off through Tanglin to Keppel Road. Meanwhile, the tramway proceeded through Newton and Tank road. The old tramway, the existing railway, various sidings, port spurs and military lines are shown with alternating white and black bands. It seems that the tramway only lasted about five years after the rail link to Malaysia/ Malaya. Some of the sections (separate from the railway) were converted into roadways. More in the link below. If you view this map from this webpage itself, it is larger and clearer than the image in my previous post:-

http://members.lycos.co.uk/railsing/Singapore/

There was also an isolated military railway out in the Changi/Pasir Ris area:-

http://members.lycos.co.uk/railsing/...e/changi41.gif

[dick]

I have an old tramwaynetmap in my collection. If you like I can make a scan and send it.
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[von Hirschhorn]

Looking forward Dick and thanks GWR.
I must admit that I read the story first after seeing the map in this thread.
Most there is explained although the steam trams and electric once are still a bit misty, however!

[ncr]

The eventual railway (after the building of the causeway) followed the same route as the tramway in the north of the island, but then hived off through Tanglin to Keppel Road. Meanwhile, the tramway proceeded through Newton and Tank road.

No - in the "history" part they explain that the original (1903) rail terminus was at Tank Road. (Later extended to Pasir Panjang.) They then decided to change this and construct a new branch starting at Bukit Timah, going to the current Singapore terminus at Keppel Road/Tanjong Pagar, which was inaugurated in 1932. The Bukit Timah-Tank Road line (with a railway bridge crossing Orchard Road!) was subsequently dismantled.

Dick, it would be great to see that tramway map because the routes are not described on that website.

[dick]

Dear forum members (Singapore fans)
The source of the tramway map is out of sight at the moment, so there will be some delay in making. Apologize.
Dick
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[tram1]

There is a great tramway maps both of steam tramway & electric in DTS Publication Singapore-a History of Trams Trolleybuses And buses by F.W.York And A.R. Phillips ( 1996)

[von Hirschhorn]

Well Khun tram1 if you have that publication maybe you can produce a fine scan and put in on this side.
And Khun Dick; what means out of sight, lost in the dark corners of a bureaucratic system or did you took to much hay on the stack? (an old Dutch proverb)

[dick]

The last is the reason......
The map I saw was an illustration (poor) for an article about tradelines in the city of Singapore in history. Give me some time.
I'm indeed very urious for the map mentioned! Scan?
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[tram1]

Well Khun tram1 if you have that publication maybe you can produce a fine scan and put in on this side.
And Khun Dick; what means out of sight, lost in the dark corners of a bureaucratic system or did you took to much hay on the stack? (an old Dutch proverb)

I will scan both and send to the main man
Ric

[dick]

That's what I ment; two very good maps. Thanks,
Dick
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[tram1]

That's what I ment; two very good maps. Thanks,
Dick

The name of people is on the maps Credit where required to DTS Publications UK

[GWR]

Great stuff. Just thought I'd put the link in this string too:-

Vintage Singapore transit maps - May 22, 2006
Ric Francis send these maps: Singapore Steam Tramway http://www.2bangkok.com/06/Singapore...%20tramway.jpg
(178kb)
and Singapore Electric Tramway
http://www.2bangkok.com/06/Singapore...%20Tramway.jpg
(208kb)

[dick]

There is a great tramway maps both of steam tramway & electric in DTS Publication Singapore-a History of Trams Trolleybuses And buses by F.W.York And A.R. Phillips ( 1996)

Finally I have found the map. Not a surprise anymore. The map is an illustration in Tramway Review, March 2006, page 180 in the article: Centenary of Electric Trams in Singapore by Tilman Frasch. Nine pages with ten photos.
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