Skytrain general updates: Taksin station issue

[mrtfreak]

oh, i understand. thanks wisarut for the explaination. in singapore's case, the north-east line runs through opposition party ground. there was a dispute as to wether Potong Paisr MRT station would be opened or just left with trains passing through. it was in an opposition district. however, the PAP (people's Action Party, ruling democratic party) decided to open the station in the end. i think this was to show that the PAp does think about its citizens and hopes that Potong Pasir would vote for them at the next General Elections. couldn't the thai govt do that too?

[Wisarut]

Yeah, I think that Thaksin could use his power to authorize BMA to handle BTS extensions but the vested interests within TRT badly want to PUNISH the Bangkokians who vote for the Democrat and they want to SELL more cars ... Think about it!

However, Democrate could not come up with any good alternative candidtes for MPs either since many of them (such as Ai Ong-art Klamphaiboon) have keep using verbal attacks the government and they EVEN act more like the 5th column (enemies within) whcih deserved TREASON charges ....

[Nekochan]

They act on their own interest. So, we can vote them out. But eventually they will be back to haunt us anyway.

Any solution??

I think they should be given some orders to do something.

Just like they (suddenly) act diligently on campaign against smoking after Dec 4.

But, what have they been doing for the last 4 years?? Particularly Lady Sudarat?

BTS will finally go for extentions as long as they attract more customers and become more robust.

[dick]

And then for my article: what is a save way to talk about the extension. The article will close januari 1st, and I dont know yet what we can write with conviction about the extension. I mean a date (!?!?) of opening.
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[The Enforcer!]

Don't hold your breath!

IF Taksin wins the General Electionon 6Th February witha large majority you can expect severe changes to the transport ownership map and hence expectation of extensions!

The Enforcer!

[Yappofloyd]

Khun Ahoerstemeier,

Thanks for the info. It seems the map is both somewhat recent and perhaps a result of some BMA hype? Don't worry about the full scan.

Well, if you read the conflicts between SRT and BMA ... it is UNLIKELY that BMA would be able to extend the line along Mahachai Railway at all .... SRT would NEVER allow that deliqent BMA to do THAT!

Now, Governor Abhilux has turn that Onnut - Suvannabhum Airprot route into BRT instead so as to complement but NOT compete with Suvannabhum Airport Link ... He is a lot more a compromiser than that Autocratic Samak.

Khun Wisarut,

Yes the ongoing SRT/BMA spats are a concern but SRT doesn't also seem to get along with MRTA & BTS ("Not a surprisingly, SRT workers keep ranting against MRTA and BTS without making any improvement to their stations to serve both Subway and Skytrain.", 25/08/04, Wisarut report on 2bkk website).

But I am confused about your suggestion that the the BMA proposed BRT Onnut-Suvannabhaum route would not compete with Airport Link as it is essentially the same corridor (not that I can imagine too many airport travellers wanting to spend an hour stuck in soi77/On Nut rd). If BMA wants a connection btn BTS at On Nut and Airport I would have thought that Bang Na and Lat Krabang would be better?

[Wisarut]

Khun Yappofloyd Said:

But I am confused about your suggestion that the the BMA proposed BRT Onnut-Suvannabhaum route would not compete with Airport Link as it is essentially the same corridor (not that I can imagine too many airport travellers wanting to spend an hour stuck in soi77/On Nut rd). If BMA wants a connection btn BTS at On Nut and Airport I would have thought that Bang Na and Lat Krabang would be better?

Well, the route from Onnut to NBIA would PLEASE thsoe who live along Onnut Road and Phtthanakarn which are NOT covered by Suvannabhum Airport Link .... However, I would suggest antgoerh BRT line form Monburi to Lad Krabang via Romkalo and KMITL they they are also NOT covered by Suvannabhum Airprot Link.

[Yappofloyd]

All, buy the BKK post today as it has a colour rap-around by MRTA & BMCL showing all the planned new metro and SRT lines (incl. airport link) with lots of smiling happy faces.
The funny thing though is that it shows none of the BTS exts only restricting the BTS lines to the current network! I hope this is not an indication of future competition and lack of co-operation between the different network operators.....

[ncr]

All, buy the BKK post today as it has a colour rap-around by MRTA & BMCL showing all the planned new metro and SRT lines (incl. airport link) with lots of smiling happy faces.

Can someone scan that?

The funny thing though is that it shows none of the BTS exts only restricting the BTS lines to the current network!

Does that really surprise you?

I hope this is not an indication of future competition and lack of co-operation between the different network operators.....

Bingo!

[Maverick]

Translated From the newspaper: Prachachart Turakij

BMA governor set April 27 to open tender price envelops for BTS extension projects (Silom line and Sukhumvit line) The governor said Bangkok cannot wait for any longer so they have to do something to continue the project. A source said there are 4 groups submit bidding documents for the project which are Sino-Thai, Italian-Thai, Ch-Karnchang, Naowarat Pattanakan, Civil Co. and Nam Prasert Ltd.

Do you think this is a good sign ?

[Wisarut]

Yeah ... a good political movement inded .. if Governro Abhilux has sucessfully implemneted Samrong and Taksin extension, the prospect
of re-election is very bright indeed This wold also secure the
voting for BMA City Council and even the MP election in 2009 ....

ANY obstruction on Skytrain extensions by TRT (e.g. Nationalization
plan) would ONLY hurn TRT's Prospect on BKK areas during the
general election of 2009 though ... unless TRT is movign fast enough
to implement MRTA Blue Ring, Blue line extension, the Purple line and
Orange line .... as well as Suvannabhum Airport Link,
Lad Phrao - Sri Nakharin - Samrong Yellow LRT and
Highway 304 Pink Monorail

[ncr]

ANY obstruction on Skytrain extensions by TRT (e.g. Nationalization plan) would ONLY hurn TRT's Prospect on BKK areas during the
general election of 2009 though ...

1. I hope any obstruction would backfire on the government.
2. I hope TRT realizes this.
3. I hope they'll act accordingly and stop the childish behaviour.

See, I still have some hope left!

[Wisarut]

Now, the Results are coming out ....

So far, ONLY ITD, STECON-AS and Nawarat Phatthana-Ch. Karnchang
(NC J/C) are qualified for bidding.

The results are:

1) Taksin Extension:

STECON-AS Consortium: 1,033,877,909 Baht -> Winner
ITD: 1,036,579,613 Baht
Nawarat Phatthana-Ch. Karnchang: 1,060,620,800 บาท

2) Samrong Extension Phase 1 (Onnut - Lasalle)
ITD: 4,060,130,289.49 Baht -> Winner
Naowarat Phatthana-Ch. Karnchang: 4,179,264,050 Baht

3) Samrong Exntesion Phase 2 (Lasalle - Samrong) + Samrong Depot
ITD: 4,414,681,852.86 Baht -> Winner
Naowarat Phatthana-Ch. Karnchang: 4,550,500,995.96 Baht

After openign the bidding result, hte Committed will inspect the document for 2 weeks before making the official results.

BMA is preparign the budget form the leftover budget of Year 2005 and Budget of year 2006 ...

If Taksin extension is DONE, BTS woudl get the extra daily passenger of 10,000 passengers a day ... but the feeder bus with modified routes could add even more number of pasengers ...

[TGunner]

I hope BTS will be able to find the necessary money to finance the extensions. So far, somehow, we haven't heard much about the funding part....

[The Enforcer!]

This is all good news ... at least if it is getting press, Suriya is going to have to cat one way or the other.

Only 'no news' is 'bad news'!

The Enforcer!