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Originally posted by Hitesh
clearny he has no idea what he is talking about.
So what do we currently know about the Skytrain extensions?
Will Samrong and Taksin/Phetkasem get the go ahead soon?
The Enforcer!
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Originally posted by The Enforcer!
So what do we currently know about the Skytrain extensions?
Will Samrong and Taksin/Phetkasem get the go ahead soon?
The Enforcer!
I have not heard any actual reports so all I am left with is speculation. People do agree that the skytrain extentions are delayed because of political differences. Be is because Samut Prakan did not vote TRT or because public transport (busses) there are controlled by well connected individuals.
We all know the Taksin extension could have been opened by the end of this year because the structures have been complted for a long time. Reporters claim the government want to purchase a majority stake in BTSC before giving them permission to lay the tracks across the river. Once again, this is all speculation.
The government plans of nationalising BTSC and BMCL, merging them and then privitising them again does seem ridiculous and reeks of corruption.
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Originally posted by Hitesh
The government plans of nationalising BTSC and BMCL, merging them and then privitising them again does seem ridiculous and reeks of corruption.
On the basis that there is absolutely zero benefit being public owned as opposed to privately I have to agree that there is some alterior motive.
System integration, i.e. joint ticketing, joint promotions etc can be done without common ownership.
Let's hope 2005 is a year of Transport movement!
The Enforcer!
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Feb 2005?
I think we may need to wait a little bit longer until after Feb 2005. At that time Mr. Taksin and his TRT fellows will be back in business again.
I remembered they would have had 5 years to go to complete mass transit projects (they announced that 6 years' plan on Feb 23, 2004).
As projects are proceeded, they will take all credits that they solve BKK traffic gridlock.
Apirak .... WHO?
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Originally posted by Nekochan
Feb 2005?
I think we may need to wait a little bit longer until after Feb 2005. At that time Mr. Taksin and his TRT fellows will be back in business again.
I am betting on a November 2004 election but even if we must wait until February, I think that once they are tidily 'in' for another four years, nothing new will happen on the transport front!
The Enforcer!
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Guys!
At this Government TRT Fair this week, there is (I am told) a model of all the new Mass Transit systems ... including the two Skytrain extensions!!
Does this mean that the Government is giving BTS permission to proceed now?
The Enforcer!
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No, Not Yet ... and BMA is aksing the cental government to help BTS to construct Taksin extension ... and BMA HAVE to lobby Khun Ying Photjaman so that premier Thaksin would approve such a deal.
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Originally posted by Wisarut
No, Not Yet ... and BMA is aksing the cental government to help BTS to construct Taksin extension ... and BMA HAVE to lobby Khun Ying Photjaman so that premier Thaksin would approve such a deal.
How sad - why can't they stop treating the Skytrain like a football!
The Enforcer!
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Read in the Nation today that MRTA are to press ahead with 2 new lines and 2 extensions but BTS is being refused permission for extensions!
It is criminal!
The Enforcer!
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From yesterdays 2Bangkok ....
The Skytrain is five years old - December 5, 2004
"Finally, in the last two weeks came news that the Skytrain was attracting more passengers, mainly from synergy with the newly opened subway, and would be able to finance the extensions on its own and implement joint-ticketing without involving the government."
When was this announced ?
The Enforcer!
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Thsi News has been report around Dec 3-4, 2004
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It's from this article--BTS show the results after 5-years in service: 431 million passenger and counting - translated and summarized by Wisarut Bholsithi from Manager Daily, November 30, 2004
http://angkor.com/2bangkok/2bangkok/...ndex.shtml#5th
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Originally posted by admin
It's from this article--BTS show the results after 5-years in service: 431 million passenger and counting - translated and summarized by Wisarut Bholsithi from Manager Daily, November 30, 2004
http://angkor.com/2bangkok/2bangkok/...ndex.shtml#5th
That is good news. The bad news is, I suppose, the story carried over the weekend that the trackbeds laid already are opposed by OTP and will cost a fortune to re-align!
The Enforcer!
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could someone explain why the extensions are currently being held up or taking a long time to complete? thanks.
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It is ALL about Politicking! Those Who run BTSC and BMCL are the supporters of Democrat . For the case fo BTSC, it is Khun Kasem Jatikawanit's and hsi wife eho have strong connections with Loxley and Kasikorn Thai Bank ... both are the staunch supporters fo Democrat Party.
For the case of BMCL, it is Ch. karnchang who is another supporters of Democrat party - esp Sanm Bin Nam Lien faction whcih has beocme the main force behind Mahachon Party ... after beign reject by New Millenium faction inside Democrat.
Therefore, Ai Suriya and Premier Thaksin are trying to snatch the credit for system expansions for themselves ... by imposing Nationalization of BTSC and BMCL to become government's property and the offer IPO for theri CRONIES.
For the case of Ch Karnchang, the are will to sell the BMCL stocks
since the goveremtn has offered ucrative contractor deals if the agree to sell theri stocks to the governemnt ....
Furthermore, BBL has already taken over the ailing Natural park ... so BMCL stocks are now within the reach of Premier Thaksin and Co.
(BBL = Bangkok Bank PCL - the major creditor and benefactor of TRT -> whoe is the one who help Thaksin's business os premier Thaksin has become a billionair)
However, the case of BTSC is quite tough even though ITD agrees to sell the stocks to the government so as to be qualified for lucrative government contracts, Thanayong REFUSE to follow the suit ....
Furthermore, TRT are goign to PUNISH these Bangkokians who vote for Khun Aphirak (Democrat Candidate) by delayign Skytrain extensions. Furthermore, the rivalty between BMA and OTP are very fierce ..... for Skytrain extensions, Soutehrn Bangkok Transportation center and BRT .... same can be said to the continuing conflicts between BMA and BMTA about the Bus Reforms and the dragging disputes between BMA and SRT abotu Chatuchak Weekend market.
See .... it is the politic have delayt the projhect implementations ..
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