Skytrain general updates: Taksin station issue

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Ron Morris 4
08-07-2003 08:40 PM ET (US)

Toward the bottom of this page
http://www.2bangkok.com/2bangkok/Skytrain/taksin.shtml
there are some articles about the apparent government opposition to the Skytrain ("Political vendettas doom Skytrain extensions"). However, it appears that in recent months the extensions are going forward.

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Leng 3
08-07-2003 02:34 PM ET (US)

oh, really! But from what I've read from a newspaper, it said that it will be completed earlier???

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JJJ 2
08-07-2003 08:08 AM ET (US)

Really? I would like to know as well. Please share.

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A frustrated Farang! 1
08-07-2003 12:13 AM ET (US)

Does any one know the inside political problems which might be facing this project... please share it with me...
Thanks
ps; there is a rumour that the project will be delayed! surprised, Surprised!!!!

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Wisarut 2
08-14-2003 04:36 AM ET (US)

Khun Praderm (Pradoem),
BTSC expected that The first Phase of Taksin Extension
(Saphan Taksin - Taksin Intersection) will be done and opened on December 5, 2004 while Samrong extension will be done and opened on December 5, 2006 ... The reason for
faster opening date fro Taksin ewxtension is due the medification of Phaseecharoen Eelevated Way .... At least the faster opening date for Taksin extension will help picking up the passengers from Thonburi side of BKK who have relied upon the feeder buses ....

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Praderm 1
08-14-2003 01:30 AM ET (US)

Does the entire extension has to wait for its completion such as Samrong expectedly being completed in end of 2006? Will it be possible that each station starts operation upon its completion?

[Kiku99]

yeah, i really think that the govt. should start the project as soon as possible. And make sure to get the new contract signed before the old one finishes. so the construction can be continuing without any interuption.

[ncr]

RE: Ratchadamnoen Avenue project & mass transit, 2bangkok.com, 20 September 2003

Khun Wisarut,

Great to hear there are plans for a western Skytrain extension (though this one will probably have the lowest priority of all). You know, I cannot look at the National Stadium station on a route map without feeling physical pain.... It is so ridiculous to have a Central Station where two lines intersect, just to have the Silom line end after another 300m, and just one more station. Who came up with this route layout anyway? Couldn't they have built it at least up to Rama VI or Yotse? No question, it must be extended one day.

But as far as the "green line subway" is concerned, do you know where and how they intend to construct the transition from the elevated to the underground section? Must be pretty complicated and space-consuming. Are there any more details about the mass transit systems in the "Manager Daily" article (http://www.manager.co.th/asp-bin/Vie...=4627271553873) you mentioned?

[Wisarut]

Too Bad Khun NCR, They haven't come up with the way to
put the Western Extension to Sanam Luang to become
a subway. However, guess that the space parallel to Expressway is an ideal pleace to do so ... Othse, the land
exappropriation will be applied and it will be a real pain to the
neck to do so ....
Too bad, they considere the area beyond National Stadium has not attraction point to extend ... the area what should be the
target is Bo Bae Garment Market - the intersection of Klogn Saen Saeb and Klong Phadung Krungkasem ... However, the very clamped space to put those pillrs on have barred the mfrom doing so ... and it requires to go across the railway ....

[Robert Stadler]

Hi Everybody

I wonder if anyone know a good map with the planned and suggested skytrain extansions ?

Best regards

Robert

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A reader also asks: "I follow your website religiously -as it has a wealth of information.
Although I have tried looking on your site I cannot find a detailed map of proposed skytrain extension stations, particularly for the Taksin extension. I have found schematic/diagramatic maps and lists of proposed stations (revised quite often of late I see...) but not accurate road maps showing the exact location to get some idea of and walking distances to/from proposed stations.
I may have missed this on your site or maybe you can provide a link to a map.
Many thanks & keep up the good work!"

Are there any maps yet?

[The Enforcer!]

Road map? - I will you will be very lucky if you find one!

The Enforcer!

[Robert Stadler]

Hi

I wonder if the north extension will be close to AIT (Asian Institute of Technology) and Thammasat University ?

Regards


Robert

[Wisarut]

Khun Bobby,

Nahh, it ain't go to Thammasart University Rangsit Campous or AIT! It'll head to Lam Lookka Suburb instead since that Big Nose
Governor Samak would liek to please those Air Force Top Brasses who set their retirement castles in the area closed to RTAF HQ.

However before goign to Lam Lookka area, iy must pass though very dense area from Mochit to Saphan Mai .... and go thoug h RTAF area (up to Air Force Academy) ....

Probbaly, BMA don't want to have bitter argument with the Highway Dept who oen the land along Phaholyothin Road from National Memorial (AKA Si Mum Muang Market) ...

Therefore, the extension along Phaholyothin road from
Si Mum Muang Market and beyond is nto possible without
cooperation from Highway Dept .... However, Highway Dept feel afraid that Skytrain extension will zap the customers of
Donmuang tollway ... Think abotu it!

Now trhe Traffic Policy Office come up with the bus at the middle of the road as feeder to Skytrain ... However, I don't think it will work as the way it should be .... Failture for that kidn of bus has
made me feel very distrust on such scheme ...


Wisarut

[Robert Stadler]

What do you guys think , will 2004-2005 be wasted years for the skytrain extensions ? will the project will continue during 2006 ?
Or will restarted earlier during 2004 or 2005 ?

Lets hear some predictions/guesses


Best regards


Robert

[Wisarut]

Khun Bob,

Well, even though the constuction have been on the hold for now ... but the mounting pressure from Thonburi side of BKK as well as the goverment pressure for Mass transit system expansion will force the constrctiuon of extension to be resumed as well as restarted ... However, BMA and BTSC may have to pay very high price for this matter ....

[Robert Stadler]

Khun Wisarut,

What are your guess about then the constructions will restart on the taksin extension ? and then will the start be on the constructions on the other proposed extensions ?

Best regards

Robert

[The Enforcer!]

A learned Thai friend of mine has suggested that the lack of a Thai Rak Thai gubernatoral candidate is a reflection of the fact that TRT thought it could wade in last year, take control of all Mass transit at little cost (i.e. 'nationalisation without compensation') and provide vote winning extensions to Thonburi and Bangna.

Now that has back-fired thus they are keeping out of the running!

The Enforcer!

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All the articles about the 'progress' of the extensions is here:

http://2bangkok.com/2bangkok/Skytrain/taksin.shtml