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MASTER PLAN NEWS 2003 September
This section contains news of the Master Plan, overall Bangkok development,
the Bangkok Governor's development plans, and articles about interconnecting
mass transit projects.
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Pakkret ordinance depot moves to make
way for new parliament - and reinvigorates Bangkok Land
- translated and summarized by Wisarut Bholsithi from Siam Turakij,
September 28-October 4, 2003
The Ministry of Defense has decided to move the Pakkaret
Ordinance to Khao Phra Ngam, Lopburi (Military Town) to make a way for
the new parliament. Premier Thaksin agrees with the Minster of Defense
since it is the cheapest deal and very close to the river and has good
transportation routes. The move to Lopburi will be completed in November
2004.
The proposed area
This 265-rai of Ordinance area [265 rail, 2 ngan, 7 square wah to be exact]
is between Tiwanon Road and Chao Phraya river and very close to the expressway
and other routes ... thus the transportation is not a problem. It is in
a Bangkok suburb (technically in Pakkret district of Nonthaburi which
both Nonthaburi and Pakkret have the status as "City").
However, the government and Ministry of Defense need to purchase another
150-rai of orchards on Chao Phraya [the adjacent area of Pakkret Ordinance]
to make a place for the buildings along Chao Phraya [1250-m shore line]
and render the area a rectangular shape.
There are already 21 office buildings, 1 maintenance building, 1 general
building, 54 ordinance buildings, and 33 barracks.
Speculators are moving to the Pakkaret area, close to the Ordinance to
purchase land as well as construct the Krungtrhai Hospital and Country
Place Bar Beer [just opened].
Most villages around the Ordinance are the old projects. There are a few
new ones like Chotchuang Chatchawan Village, and Flowery Home Village.
Not final yet
However, the final decision is not settled yet. The criteria to select
land for a new parliament are:
1) not private land - should be mostly public land
2) the least expense on construction
3) the new parliament will look very graceful with aestetic surrounding
4) very good transportation routes
For the case of the Ordinance area, the pros and cons are:
Pros:
1) The area is in a flood protection area
2) Expressway is already there ... but needs to expand Bangkok-Pathumthani
Road as well as Nonthaburi Bridge [AKA Nuanchawee Bridge] as well as the
new extension of the subway to the area
3) Still within the service area of Metropolitan Waterworks Authority
and Metropolitan Electricity Authority
4) Still within the area for water treatment and garbage collection of
Pakkret City
5) Close to the High Power Lines
6) Within the telephone area of Nonthaburi and still has adequate vacant
numbers for the new parliament
Cons:
1) Within the City Area - with high buildings to obstruct the view of
the Parliament
2) Air pollution from exhaust and dust
3) Needs very long pillars to construct due to soft clay area
4) High rate of land subsidence and bad drainage
5) Military Area requires major demolition as well as high compensation
6) Those who work and live around the area have to be moved away due to
the land restriction
7) Factories around the parliament area (such as those in Bang Kradee
Industrial Estate, the brewery, Pepsi factory, etc.) have to be moved
away and the government needs to allocate new industrial estates to handle
these factories.
8) If there is a demonstration, it will generate serious friction between
those who live around the parliament area and the protesters.
New Roads
The road from Phetkasem - Sai Noy Rattnathibet (via Rama 5 Bridge) and
Bangkruay - Sai Noy - Kanchanaphisek (via Rama 5 Bridge) is done. Borommaratchachonnanee
- Phetkasem will be opened on September 30 and the two linking road will
be opened in 2004.
New Bridge
The new Chaophraya Bridge at Pakkret has just received budget approval
- to be done in 2006. The first section will be an overpass bridge across
the Chao Phraya and the North-South road linking Rama 5 Bridge with Highway
345. The East-West section (including the overpass bridge) will connect
Kanchanaphisek road with Chaeng Watthana. The North-South and East-west
road will be 6-land highways to unclog the traffic at Phra Nangklao Bridge.
Developers happy
Real estate developers such as Sansiri PCL [with a project Setsiri in
Sanambin Nam], Mankhong Khehakarn PCL [with projects at Khae Rai and and
Chuanchuen Chaeng Watthana at the bypass road to Chang Watthana] , and
Buathong Property Co.Ltd said it is a good ideal to have the parliament
in Pakkret so that it will boost land prices and other infrastructure
will follow. Thus it will render their projects money-makers and they
can close their deals successfully.
Commentary by Wisarut: If the government decides to move the national
assembly to Pakkret, MRTA and BMCL should come up with the Purple line
(Tao Poon - Muangthong Thani - Pakkret) to Pakkret via Muangthong Thani
the terminal should be at Pakkret intersection to pick up those who watch
movie at Major Hollywood ... at least, this line will please those who
live in Pakkret City ....
Poison pen from SRT
- translated and summarized by Wisarut Bholsithi from MRTA
news from Manager Daily
I found a poison pen post from a SRT worker whose name is "Dr. Somchai
Student of SRT" -> probably a Democrat and SRT supporter:
MRTA must use very cunning and dirty tricks to fool
Deputy Minister Somsak [Somsak Thpsuthi] and Minister Suriya [Suriya
Juengrungruengkit] to shorten SRT lines to end up at Bangsue Junction
instead of going all the way to Hua Lamphong as a way to boost the number
of passengers for the MRTA subway which we (SRT workers) consider as "a
system at risk for arson, flooding, tunnel collapse" with a VERY
high price tag ...
Furthermore, MRTA has fooled the people to ride Skytrain rolling stock
supplied by Siemens since Siemens cannot assemble the Subway rolling stocks
on time.
Even more, the good old Makkasan Depot has to be gone to make a way for
the Airport Link to get money from foreign investors so as to destroy
the Itaen (Democrat Party) - using the depot and maintenance center in
the same form as the MRTA depot and maintenance center - but this time
MOTC has invited Bombadier to handle the depot -> since Bombadier has
invited and paid MOTC ministers, Ai Jitsanti, and MRTA officers to see
their offices.
SRT workers must be very stupid since Mr. Thanasophon [SRT Director
Jitsanti Thanasophon] is a VERY BAD MAN. Mr. Jitsanti is an OUTSIDER,
and not the one of US... [There's more here including accusations
of kickbacks and the SRT Board.] Mr. Jitsanit has accused his subordinates
who cause delays on laundry matters which Sin Chai Hua will be a replacement
soon [SRT recently changed the company that provides laundry service.].
Furthermore, he has secretly sold the SRT land in Phuket which is reserved
for the future railway from Kirirat Nikhom to Phuket. The land for Easter
Railway (Yommaraj - Chachoengsao) which is supposed to be 20 wah per side
has been reduced to 20 meter per side.
Also, those who get involved in the scandals such as the 1.7 million Baht/station
restrooms and expensive railway sleepers have not been punished at all...
[The writer is referring to other recent SRT scandals involving alleged
overpayment.]
Commentary by Wisarut: Anything about SRT is scandalous as usual.
The rolling stock I have seen are brand new--not the Skytrain rolling
stock as Dr. Somchai has alleged. There are several other lies this guy
has written. It is a shame that SRT has is filled with dinosaurs like
Dr. Somchai who refuse electric trains for the Airport Link and still
cling to old diesel engines.
Ratchadamnoen Avenue project &
mass transit - from translated and summarized
by Wisarut Bholsithi from Manager Daily - September 20, 2003
[Check out the map of the building zones along the avenue (with both English
and Thai labels) and future mass transit routes around Rattankosin Island
on this
page. The comments below refer to the maps on that page.]
The project coordinator said that Ratchadamnoen Buildings (built around
1937-39) have become dilapidated after the opening of Pinklao Bridge in
1973 due to smoke and pollution. There should be a new park and ride at
Khao San Road. Sidewalk Cafes with shade trees along Ratchadamnoen Avenue
should be revived to ensure the climate of Champs Elysees [the prototype
of Rachadamnoen Avenue] as well. After all, Ratchadamnoen Avenue should
be for royal ceremonies, state ceremonies and ceremonies for the people.
Commentary by Wisarut: Notice that the project is going to use
the route of the defunct Hopewell (the underground section) to extend
mass transit to Sanam Luang (the foot of Pinklao Bridge - Bangkok Side).
This western extension will go along Rama I Road from National Stadium
to Yotse. After that, the line will turn right and become an underground
route [Green Line Subway] along Phadung Krungkasem canal to Saphan Khao
via Bo Beh Garment Market.
After that, it will go along Lan Luang Road [the route proposed by Hopewell
and SRT] to Phan Fah Bridge [the gate of Rattanakosin Island to intersect
the future MRTA Orange line] and then go along Ratchadamnoen Avenue to
the Supreme Court before ending up at National Theater near the foot of
Pinklao Bridge.
Note that LAN Luang station [BTSC] is at the intersection between Lan
Laung Road and Chakkraphadiphongse road--very close to Klong Thom (the
market for spare parts and second hand electrical products).
I would like to ask the project coordinator to allow the BTSC extension
to go across Chao Phraya to Bangkok Noy Railway Station and then go up
to Arun Amarin Intersection before going along Pinklao Road to intersect
with the MRTA Northern Ring at Pinklao Intersection. After that, it is
up to BMTA, Project Coordinators and Traffic Policy to extend the route
to Talingchan or just terminate the route at Pinklao Road.
The Grand Palace Station Southern Extension of MRTA Blue line is not exactly
at the Grand Palace though. It is more likely in front of Grand Palace
Metropolitan Police station according to the map. This one is also very
close to Pakklong Talad Flea Market as well as Ban Moh (Bangkok version
of Akihabara).
Going to the Grand Palace and Wat Poh requires passengers to walk northward.
Therefore, the proposed BMA Rattanakosin Ring Tramway along the Old City
moat [dug in 1771] must be included in the plan to function as a feeder
to the Southern Extension of the Blue line and BTSC Skytrain (which has
to become a subway).
Too bad the proposed BMA ring tramway is not long enough to reach Orange
line.
Furthermore, the Bang Khunphrom station of MRTA Orange line is pretty
far from BangLamphoo and the coordinators seem to ask MRTA not to construct
Bang Lamphoo station. If possible, Bang Lampho station should be revived--allowing
the the proposed Bangkok Ring Tramway to reach Bang Lamphoo and become
a feeder of all three major lines.
Even though the Crown Property Bureau said people who live in 3 Phraeng
(Phrang Phoothorn, Phrang Sanphasart, Phraeng Nara) can stay in their
homes, the rent hike from 800 to 10,000 baht a month have discouraged
them from staying. No wonder that 25 communities in Rattanakosin Island
asks the Ratchadamnoen coordinators to review and revive the plan.
Critiquing
the Salang Plan - September 10, 2003
Wisarut Bholsithi reports: I have information on the Mass Transit System
plan proposed by Pol. Gen. Salang Bunnag from Manager Daily which
consists mainly of railways as well as an LRT along the expressways. A
map of the plan is here (119kb).
However, I would like to comment about Gen Salang Plan:
1) For the LRT along expressways, MRTA would have to allow Ch. Karnchang
and the Expressway Authority to become shareholders. Otherwise, MRTA would
not be allowed to run LRT service along expressways.
2) MRTA would have to ensure that the system will be physical interchangeble--no
need to leave a station to make an interchange. The uncomfortable interchanges
between the Skytrain and Subway should remind them of this fact.
3) For the case of SRT railway, the system must be electrified. DMU commuter
units as well as diesel locomotives which SRT possesses are very unsuitable
for going into tunnels (such as the section through Rattankosin Island).
4) Even though the routes proposed by Gen. Salang are pretty good, General
Salang has forgets to take some facts into account: mass transit systems
should be at very important places with very high density.
General Salang did not include the following routes into his plan:
1) MRTA Orange lines to pick up passengers in the Ram Khamhaeng area
2) BTSC Samrong extension to pick up the passengers in Samut Prakarn area
3) MRTA Southern extension through Rattanakosin Island.
4) Yellow lines along Lad Phrao - Sri Nakharin Road
If General Salang has known that BTSC and MRTA are very determined to
push the extensions forward, he would have revised his plan by erasing
some of his proposed lines.
5) Park and rides with facilities to pick up passengers for all railway
stations along commuter lines are a must.
6) Gen. Salang forgets that Bangkokians are already fed up with BMTA bus
services (even the Euro 2 type - the best BMTA can offer). Therefore,
the plan to use BMTA buses to run in the downtown and inner cities parts
will NEVER work.
7) The Mae Nam line is at best a feeder to the Air Port Express. At worse,
it is a waste of money since the Blue Line passes the gate of the Queen
Sirikit National Convention center. Comfortable interchanges with Ploenchit
Station and Klong Toei station are a must. Land expropriation along Expressway
and Maenam Railway is a must since the space is very tight.
8) The line along Paknam Railway Road is a big waste of money since it
has become a truck route with no important places--unless there may be
land speculators along the route.
9) Going across Chao Phraya parallel to Rama IX Bridge is very risky...
It would need an underwater tunnel or very steep bridge like Rama III
Bridge.
10) It would be much better if someone had sent a photocopy of the OCMLT
plan for the Orange line to Gen Salang so that he will take the data from
OCMLT into account before submitting his plan. A map of the plan is here
(119kb).
Projects approved
- translated and summarized by Wisarut Bholsithi from Manager Daily,
September 11, 2003
Premier Thaksin and the cabinet has approved the following mass transit
systems:
1) Southern extensions of Subway -> Hua Lamphong - Tha phra - Bangkhae
(13.8 km) -> has already passed the preliminary design and environmental
assessment -> ready to call a bid for contractor -> should be implemented
immediately with the condition attached to cut construction cost from 4
billion baht/km by not hiring a consultant -> let the contractors design
and plan the construction costs - in comparison with the first 20 km of
the subway, this will cut costs by 30%
2) Northern Ring -> Bangsue - Tao Poon - Wongsawang - Rama VI - Bang
Oh - Krung Thon - Bang Plad - Charansanitwongse - Pin Klao - Sam Yaek Fai
Chai - Tha Phra -> need to start the preliminary design immediately
3) Orange Line -> MRTA Depot - Victory Monument - Thewet - Bang Lamphoo
- Phan Fah - Wang Boorapha - Memorial Bridge - Wongwian Yai - Suk Sawat
-> make preliminary design immediately
4) Red line Commuter
4.1) Airport Link (Phyathai - Makkasan - NBIA)
4.2) Northern Commuter (Bangsue - Rangsit)
5) BTSC -> Taksin Extension allowed but the 2nd phase of Taksin extension
is halted until BMA and BTSC have settled debt questions with creditors
For Expressways -> Ram Indra - Lam Lookka - Kanchanaphisek Road, and
the controversial CD Road (Yommarat - Rajdamri) are to be resumed ->
and Trok Chan - Rat Boorana is revived to relieve congestion on Rama IX
Bridge.
Commentary by Wisarut: For the commuter, a depot at Bangsue and Makkasan
is needed! Also, the Orange Line should be extended to Bangkapi to relive
congestion at Ram Khamhaeng, Hua Mark and Lam Salee. Feeder buses around
Lad Phrao and Bang Kapi will not work.
SRT dusting off double track projects
- translated and summarized by Wisarut Bholsithi from Manager Daily,
Monday - September 8, 2003
SRT has responded after Premier Thaksin has made a clear statement to
invest more on rail systems (both double tracking and High Speed Rail)
by coming up with double track projects in interprovincial routes which
have been frozen for a long time due to high construction cost.
Minister Suriya agrees that it is necessary to make a huge investment
on such a project so as to cut energy consumption to 100 billion baht
from the current 300 billion baht. Transportation gobbles 37% of annual
energy consumption. The final plan will come up next month.
The SRT Governor said that double tracking will allow inbound/outbound
railways to run without having to make a long stop to yield the track
for outbound/inbound trains, thus speeding up the schedule, saving energy
bills by running with more efficiency, increasing frequency to increase
passengers and cargo, and thus boosting revenue to pay off SRT debts.
So far, double tracks have been limited to 234 km of double tracks in
Bangkok and vicinity for commuters in addition to the old 90-km double
track from Hua Lamphong - Ban Phachee (built in 1936). The double-tracked
sections are:
1) Rangsit - Ban Phachee - 61 km (triple track)
2) Ban Phachee - Lopburi - 43 km
3) Hua Mark - Chachoengsao - 45 km
4) Ban Phachee - Kaengkhoi - Mab Krabao - 44 km
5) Bangsue - Nakhon Pathom - 41 km
SRT is getting a big boost from other agencies to come up with double
tracking. There will be 4 routes to get double tracks with a distance
of 756 km and a total price tag of 85.88 billion baht:
1) Lopburi - Nakhon Sawan - 113 km, 10.2 billion baht, to be done in 4
years. The double tracking from Lopburi to Nakhon Sawan will shorten the
running time of Bangkok (Hua Lamphong) to Nakhon Sawan (Paknam Pho) [246
km] trains from 5 hours to 3 hours 30 minutes.
2) Denchai - Chiang Mai - 180 km, 30 billion baht - to be completed in
5 years since it is necessary to dig a new Khun Tan tunnel parallel to
Khun Tan Tunnel and lay new track through mountain ranges. This route
will shorten the running period for the route from Chiangmai to Denchai
(the future junction) from 4-5 hours to 2 hours.
Note: Khun Tan tunnel (the longest railway tunnel in Thailand -
with the highest railway station in Thailand at Khun Tan) was initially
dug by German engineers and Chinese workers, but the rail link to Chiang
Mai was finished in 1921 by Army Engineers led by Prince Purajat Jaiyakorn
after German engineers became POWs after 1917.
3) Prachuab - Surat Thani - 333 km, 28.36 billion baht, to be completed
in 4 years. This route will help speed up the Southern railway from Bangkok
(Bangsue) to Had Yai via Prachuab Khirikhan and Surat Thani by 4 hours
and 30 minutes from 18 hours to 13.5 hours, increasing the frequency of
the Southern railway by 10 trips a day from the current 30 trips a day
to 40 trips a day, increasing the passengers to Hua Hin (the Siamese Riviera)
and Samui (dropping down at Phunphin to pick up a bus to Samui) via railways
by 10,000 passengers a day, cutting down fuel bills by 300,000 baht a
day due to higher efficiency of fuel consumption, carrying more cargo
from the current 1.6 metric tons, more passengers from current 4.5 million
passengers and more revenue from current 1.14 billion baht.
4) Mab Krabao - Nakhon Ratchasima - 130 kmm 17.08 billion baht, to be
completed in 4 years.
SRT will propose these 4 double track projects to MOTC and then MOTC will
set up task forces and hire a consultant to handle these double track
projects. SRT insists that the construction cost per km for this double
track project will be lower than the commuter lines.
For the case of the high speed railway from Bangkok (Bangsue) to Nakhon
Ratchasima, SRT found that the best route is Bangkok (Bangsue) - Bang
Nam Priaw (Chachoengsao) - Nakhon Nayok - Khorat with a total distance
of 250 km. This route has to pass through Khao Yai National Park to shorten
the route. SRT is going to hire a consultant to make an assessment on
the construction cost. The old Route from Makkasan - Chachoengsao - Saraburi
- Kheng Khoi - Khorat is too long.
Initially, the government refused to approve a 2004 budget to hire a consultant
to handle the High Speed Railway. However, SRT will ask for 18 million
baht to hire consultants to study the feasibility after the government
has made a clear signal to start the project-- in the 2005 budget. The
studies will cover the routes, distances, land expropriation, construction
cost, construction period, and the type of High Speed Rail system ->
such as
1) 160 km/hr (DESIRO) - Reaching Khorat in 1 1/2 - 2 hours
2) 250 km/hr (Mini Shinkansen - export version of Shinkansen, ICE-3) -
reaching Khorat in 1 hour and 10 minute
3) 300 km/hr (TGV or Advanced Shinkansen [Nozomi], ICE-5) - Reaching Khorat
in less than 1 hour.
The route that goes through Khao Yai National Park requires new technology
to dug the tunnels with a need to invest 0.5 billion baht/km, thus the
government needs to invest about 125 billion baht to ensure that the high
speed railway system will become a reality.
Even though the financial benefits from double tracking and High Speed
Railway is low (may not be worthy for investment), the economic benefit
and energy savings is high enough to make serious considerations.
Furthermore, SRT has to invest on track rehabilitation in phases 4-5-6
to increase the speed
Phase 4: Thung Soing Ba Ton Don (Phatthalung) and Phitsanulok - Ban Dan
(Uttaradit) - 227 km, 6 billion baht, to be completed in 5 years.
Phase 5: Khaeng Khoi - Lam Narai - Chaturat - Bua Yai Junction (228 km)
and Bua Yai Junction (80 km) - Thanon Jira Junction -> total 308 km,
8.902 billion baht to be completed in 5 years.
Phase 6: Bua Yai Junction - Nongkhai -> 278 km, 8.432 billion baht
to be completed in 5 years.
Total Rehabilitation - 813 km, with budget of 23.335 Billion baht
Commentary by Wisarut: Expect the confrontation with environmental
activists if SRT cannot ensure that the high speed trail tracks through
Khao Yai National Park will not harm the environment.
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